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Orange handles made in and last one in ? Black leather sheath has square bottom in years, and Some sheaths in the latter part of have square ends also. Records indicate that were 2 knives for each serial from CS through CS Black coated blades were produced from through the end of production.
Apr 05, GerberGuardian Loveless box edition serial number dates? Discussion in 'General Knife Apr 5, #1. alotta_vintage. 1. Apr 2, Hi folks, I have been trying to find some dating info for a nice gerber guardian loveless edition set I got from an estate and thought I'd see if anyone is has info on these. Guardian I, Guardian II with. Gerber Knives SERIAL NUMBERS - Serial numbers make dating the Mark II knives a simple process. It is fortunate for collectors that Gerber decided to stamp Mark II blades with a serial number as this added an extra step in knife production and thus extra cost. To my knowledge, no knives were intentionally produced without serial numbers. Gerber mark 1 serial number dating - Register and search over 40 million singles: chat. Is the number one destination for online dating with more dates than any other dating or personals site. Join the leader in rapport services and find a date today. Join and search!
I do not have any data on quantities produced. There are references to red sheaths but this is in reality a brown sheath with a reddish tint. They do not have the "Sword in Stone" logo or the Gerber address. The reverse side is blank. There were no sheaths associated with these knives. Mike Silvey states that very few of the WS1 dive knives were made. There are two versions of this dive knife which seem identical in appearance until examined closely.
The WS2 is the second version and has a short 6-inch C stainless steel blade and has the narrow wasp profile with no serrations. Mike Silvey states that very few of the WS2 type dive knives were made.
Sometime in early Gerber came up with the idea of an orange handle for the Mark II knife. I'm not sure why the orange color was chosen. During this period orange was considered the primary "safety" color. Fire engines were red at this time. The aim may have been a higher visibility handle. The color Gerber used is not a pure orange, but has a red tint. Unlike the yellow handled dive knives, with three exceptions, the orange handled knives were standard production knives with serial numbers, the only difference being the orange colored handle.
A handle can be stripped and repainted orange and double or triple the price of the knife. Armorhide has a distinctive texture that is difficult to reproduce. If the orange handle is smooth or has a shiny surface, it is almost certainly a fake. Your best insurance is to examine and become familiar with the color and texture of original examples. I've also noted one knife that hadn't had the handle stripped with orange paint over the original gray. The picture below shows a comparison of a true Orange Armorhide handle top and a knife handle that has been repainted orange bottom.
They are standard production knives with serial numbers, the only difference being the bright orange colored handle. Due to the rarity of these knives, I haven't seen many examples.
My only record of OA1 knives are knives in the serial range of - Unknown as to whether this serial range comprises one or more orange handle batches. It is unknown how many of the OA1 type knives were made. Photo: John Gibson. My only record of OA2 knives are mostly knives in the serial range of - This serial range could be comprised of several batches.
It is unknown how many of the OA2 type knives were made. They are similar to the GA3 knives, with narrow wasp blades and no serrations. They have the same bright orange colored handle.
They are not stamped with the Gerber logo and do not have serial numbers. The blade is acid-etched with the Eddie Bauer script logo. The OA3 knives were offered with two types of round tip sheaths, the first with and the second without a sharpening steel. The sharpening steel has no Gerber name stamp but instead is acid-etched with the Eddie Bauer script logo, placed lengthwise on the flat below the thong hole.
The sharpening steel chisel tip is the square corner type. The knives are shown first in the 50th Anniversary Eddie Bauer catalog, on page They were also shown in the Spring and Christmas catalogs as well as the Christmas and Catalogs.
It is unknown how many were made but probably on the order of My only record of OA4 knives are knives in the serial range of - This serial range is possibly comprised of several batches. It is unknown how many of the OA4 type knives were made. The knife has a narrow wasp blade and has 14 TPI serrations on the forward 5 inches of only one blade edge.
They have orange handles and acid etched inch markings on the logo side of the blade. Not sure if they were issued with a heavy, tallow impregnated leather sheath or a standard sheath since the two examples I've seen had one of each.
It is unknown how many of the OA5 type knives were made. Possibly more were made. There has been some doubt about these high serial numbered knives being factory issued. But I believe they are legit and that there were very few made. My only record of OA6 knives are two knives, serial numbers and The blade has the same narrow wasp shape, the same serrations, the same etched inch marks and the same lack of a serial number. But the handle is orange instead of yellow.
The OA7 knives are ultra rare. Each knife blade is individually hand ground, so there are slight differences in the blade lengths. The blades are made of stainless steel and highly polished. The ricasso of the display side of the blade has an insignia or patch relative to that specific branch of the United States Armed Forces.
The rest of the display side of the blade has an engraved combat scene with banners on each side. The reverse side of the blade has the standard Gerber name, address and vertical "Sword in Stone" logo. Each knife handle has its own camouflage scheme relative to that specific branch of the US Armed Forces.
Each knife has its own wood case made of mahogany. On the inside of the wooden knife case is a certificate of authenticity that tells you the specific branch of the United States Armed Forces for the knife, and the knife's serial number.
If all four knives were ordered, having the same serial number, a "Mahogany Master Cabinet" was included into which the four individual wooden cases could be stored. There were 2, knives made for each branch of the services. The AHF started taking orders for these knives in The blade has a mirror polish with an engraved combat scene. The display side of the blade has an engraved combat scene of an air mobile assault with Huey "Slicks" and riflemen securing an LZ.
The standard etch on the display side ricasso is the insignia of the U. Army - Vietnam. Other unit insignias could be special ordered. The reverse side of the blade has the standard Gerber name, address and Vertical 1 "Sword in Stone" logo.
The handle is painted in Woodland Leaf Pattern Vietnam era camouflage. Army seal. The VT1 knives are found on knives in mahogany wood boxes with a serial numbered Certificate of Authenticity in the serial range of - The display side of the blade has an engraved combat scene of U.
S Marines armed with M's, M machine gun, M grenade launcher and hand grenades closing in on a fortified enemy position while a Marine CH Sea Stallion helicopters drop off supplies in the rear.
Dec 21, gerber mark ii serial number dating, gerber mark 2 value, conceal gerber mk 2, gerber mark ii serial number dating, gerber mk ii, gerber mk2 knife, gerber mk2 knives for sale, gerber mkii -filetype:ps -filetype:dwf -filetype:kml -filetype:kmz -filetype:xls -filetype:ppt -filetype:doc -filetype: lemat serial numbers, throwing gerber. Jul 14, I owned a Gerber Mark II several years ago and it had a serial number to date by. I think any of Bernard Levine's Knife Guides have the dating chart, I know 4 does. It also gives the dates for other Gerber 'straight knives', I am not sure about their folders. If . Jul 12, Can you guys help me Date and Value this Gerber Mark II that I recently acquired? I was told by the previous owner it was a knife. Here are some pictures, the sheath and knife are perfect, and the serial number on the knife is "BS" The serial on the sheath is "".
The standard etch on the display side ricasso is the insignia of the Third Marine Amphibious Force, the overall Marine Corps command in Vietnam. The handle is painted in Oakleaf Pattern helmet cover camouflage. Marine Corps seal. The VT2 knives are found on knives in mahogany wood boxes with a serial numbered Certificate of Authenticity in the serial range of - The display side of the blade has an engraved combat scene of a coordinated air-sea attack with a U.
Seventh Fleet representative of all U. Navy forces in Southeast Asia. The handle is painted in the solid colors of green and gray with the main portion green and the guard and pommel gray.
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A gold rope, wrapping around the handle at each end, separates the colors. Navy seal. The VT3 knives are found on knives in mahogany wood boxes with a serial numbered Certificate of Authenticity in the serial range of - Navy SEALs. The display side of the blade has an engraved combat scene of an air support mission with F-4 Phantom jets engaging in a low level attack with bombs.
Above and in the background are B aircraft carpet bombing a suspected enemy position. The standard etch on the display side ricasso is the insignia of the Pacific Air Forces, symbolic of all U. Air Force units in Southeast Asia. The handle is painted in the U. Air Force seal. The VT4 knives are found on knives in mahogany wood boxes with a serial numbered Certificate of Authenticity in the serial range of - All four knives have the same serial number.
The knives are all cased in an additional "Mahogany Master Cabinet" into which the four individual wooden cases could be stored. The Presentation Grade knives are the first Mark II knives that seem to favor appearance over functionality. The Presentation Knives were made in two versions.
Both have the wide wasp blade profile with a mirror polish and no serrations. However, these knives do not use the one piece aluminum handle. Both handle types have three pieces.
A brass guard and pommel comprise two of the pieces. The central handle section of the first version is made from Zebrawood or other exotic woods and the second version handle is made of Sambar Stag.
These knives were only made for several years. There was no mention of a stag model on that price list. According to Levine's "Guide to Knives and Their Values", Gerber manufactured these knives between through around Approximately 5, knives were produced.
Serial numbers confirm this with the majority being the wood handle P1 type. NOTE: I have heard reports that some of these knives were put to use by their owners and found not to be very durable.
This is not surprising as the knives seem to be intended for collectors and to be displayed rather than used. They have a three part handle consisting of a solid brass guard, a central wooden handle and a solid brass pommel with thong hole.
There are three narrow spacers at each end of the handle between brass and wood. The spacer colors are red-white-red. There was a minor change in some of the later serial numbered knives where the normally bare polished brass guard and pommel have a brush finish and are coated with a clear, protective finish. Although Zebrawood was the advertised handle wood, some observed knives suggest that other exotic hardwoods were used as well.
The knives are found in both the White and Orange-Flip type boxes with either the light-tan P1 type or dark-brown P2 type sheath. The Model Number is The P1 knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - Note that these knives are found with both four and six digit serial numbers. Keep all polish off of the wood. The dull patina that forms on the brass is "verdigris" copper acetate and will stain the pores of the wood handle a green color.
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They have a three part handle consisting of a solid brass guard, a central Sambar Stag handle and a solid brass pommel with thong hole. The P2 knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - There was also a small batch of P2 knives made with alphanumeric serial numbered blades. Knives AS and AS were noted. Keep all polish off of the stag. The dull patina that forms on the brass is "verdigris" copper acetate and will stain the porous stag handle a green color.
The Mark I has a brass guard and Zebrawood handle, but does not have a brass pommel. Instead the Mark I has a brass lined wrist thong hole in the wooden handle. Each of the two knives were issued in separate white boxes. Both knives have the light-tan colored sheath. I have only observed two of the P1S sets, serial number and It is unknown how many matching sets were sold.
NOTE: These sets may be an early issue of the President's Collection Knives described in the next section before their issue in the wood box. The two knives were issued in a black-cloth lined walnut box.
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Four retainer prongs are included if the box is to be used as a wall hanging display. No sheaths were included with the knives. These knives do not use the one piece aluminum handle. Four types of sets exist. The handle section of two versions is made from Zebrawood and the handle section of the other two versions is made of Sambar Stag. The engraving was done on the brass guards and pommels and signed by master engravers such as Barbara Pierce, J.
All of the sets that I have observed have a serial number less than Supposedly there were sets of each type made. They have a three part handle consisting of a solid brass guard, a central Zebrawood handle and a solid brass pommel with thong hole. The shorter bladed PC1 Mark I knives have the standard tapered 5-inch blade with a mirror polish and no serrations. They have a two part handle consisting of a solid brass guard and a Zebrawood handle with a brass lined thong hole. There are three narrow spacers between the guard and handle.
They are hand made by our most experienced craftsmen using the finest materials available. We are proud of them and hope you are too. The steel is C Stainless, the very best! It is hardened to C on the Rockwell scale. The handles are Zebrawood from West Africa. All brass parts are precision investment castings. The PC1 knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - It is assumed sets were made.
The dull patina that forms on the brass is "verdigris" copper acetate and will stain the pores of the wood handles a green color.
The shorter bladed PC1E Mark I knives have the standard tapered 5-inch blade with a mirror polish and no serrations. The steel is C stainless, the very best! Each knife is engraved by a master engraver. The PC1E knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - The shorter bladed PC2 Mark I knives have the standard tapered 5-inch blade with a mirror polish and no serrations.
Both knives have a three part handle consisting of a solid brass guard, a central Sambar Stag handle and a solid brass pommel with thong hole. There are three narrow spacers at each end of the handles between brass and stag. The handles are select Sambar Stag from India. The PC2 knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - The shorter bladed PC2E Mark I knives have the standard tapered 5-inch blade with a mirror polish and no serrations.
The brass guards and pommels of both knives are beautifully engraved. The PC2E knives are found on to knives in the observed serial range of - Gerber intended to market these high-end special knife sets through selected retailers.
Most handles were carved from whale tooth ivory. All these handles have the weight of the carving in grams scrimshawed on the underside of the carving along with the federal identification number. These registration numbers make them legal, showing that the sperm whale tooth was federally registered in accordance with the marine mammals protection act. Additional versions were also made with some handles in the form of Bear, Lion and Griffon.
Production Number Explanation. Mark II serial numbers were all numeric from through and a simple subtraction plus 1 gives the total knives made in a year. In an alpha-numeric system was adopted. These serial numbers consist of a single leading letter followed by digits from to followed by an "S" or "T". So knives can be found that have no serial number and some are totally unmarked, missing both a serial number and the Gerber logo. Mark II prototypes and salesman's samples were all stamped with a (six zeros) serial number (See the XKCT knife under Prototypes). The number of these knives is unknown. 67 rows 4.) There have been some references to there being only 2 proto type knives being .
Carvings were also done with elephant and fossilized walrus ivory. Hines Lange, the owner of Northwest Arts and Crafts, handled some or possibly all of the marketing. Most of the knives were sold in Germany and Maui, Hawaii, as Mr.
Lange had contacts in both places. The serialized sets were intended to be gifted to Gerber Executives prior to the Fiskars take-over.
The total number of ivory handled knives made is unknown but probably less than One source states that only 25 sets were made and this is true for the serialized sets intended for the Gerber Executives. However, other ivory handled knives do exist. I know of a collector that has 29 of the ivory handled knives. One source of information stated that the painstaking carving of the eagle heads took so long that Gerber canceled its marketing plans. However, it is also possibly the result of the Northwest Arts and Crafts company closing after the death of the owner, Mr.
There is a shallow, scalloped brass cap between the wood and ivory. There is no thong hole. The number of these knives is unknown. Some of these knives came with a walnut display stand consisting of a flat base with round posts of different heights at each end.
The knife is cradled on the posts with the ivory eagle head displayed at a slight angle and higher than the blade. NOTE: The example shown is made from a dated blade. The serrations are unusual and the knife may have be assembled using a standard blade that was given a high polish.
They have a handle consisting of a solid brass guard and a 5-inch long, one-piece, smooth ivory handle with an intricately carved bear head on the pommel end. There is no wood on the handle. The number of these knives is unknown but is less than the more popular I1 eagle head.
They have a handle consisting of a solid brass guard and a 5-inch long, one-piece, smooth ivory handle with an intricately carved lion head on the pommel end. They have a handle consisting of a solid brass guard and a 5-inch long, one-piece, smooth ivory handle with an intricately carved griffon head on the pommel end.
The griffon also spelled gryphon, griffin or gryphin is a legendary creature with the body of a lion and the head of an eagle with the addition of prominent ears.
These are the sets were that were gifted to Gerber Executives prior to the Fiskars take-over. The shorter bladed IS Mark I knives have the standard tapered 5-inch blade with a mirror polish and no serrations. The serial number sides of the blades are blank. Instead, both knives have a four digit serial number - engraved on the side of the brass guard.
Each set came with two boxes, an individual, hinged lid, walnut display box with red-velvet lining. Prototype is an abused term in the knife collection field. The definition of a prototype is "An original type or form after which other types or forms are developed. Below are knives that I consider prototypes.
Some were successful and others not. Still others were modified before being put into production. I'm sure there are more examples of which I am unaware. According to articles by Robert A.
The blade had a bulbous tip and a square spine down the center on both sides for strength. Its unique feature was the canted blade. The design was submitted to an industrial design firm which made a number of changes. In July a prototype was made and sent to Fort Lewis for evaluation.
The assessment resulted in several additional suggestions and were incorporated into the design. In August a second prototype was sent to Fort Lewis.
This version was given a favorable rating. So it seems there are at least two original prototype versions that exist. One reference states that eight Mark II prototype knives were made and have serial numbers of to But another advanced collector states that the final production prototype and salesman sample knives were stamped with a six zeros serial number and this is the only type which I have seen.
The whereabouts of almost all of these knives is unknown. Although the example shown looks like it has a gray Armorhide handle, it is just the lighting. It has a Cat's Tongue handle with an unusually bright finish. Possibly the stainless steel spray on these knives was thicker than was done on production knives. The coating is a rare earth doped titanium nitride of 3 micron thickness.
It has a hardness of over 95 on the Rockwell C scale and a melting point of degrees Fahrenheit. Steel melts at around degrees F.
The coating has a gold color and is commonly observed today on high wear tools such as drill bits. InMr.
Alvin Snapper, the developer and patent holder of the process, was supplied by the Gerber company with 6 Mark II blades for application of the prototype coating. The blades were coated by him and then carried back to the Gerber factory where they were assembled. Three of the assembled knives were retained by Gerber for testing purposes and 3 were returned to Mr. Snapper for his collection. For unknown reasons, Gerber decided not to use the process and no further Mark II knives were ever coated by Mr.
Two of the serial numbers are and AS. The whereabouts of the 4 remaining knives are unknown. My husband made it. None other like it anywhere.
He and two other guys were the only ones to hand produce the knives for the anniversary. The history is that my husband, Dale, was in the Fall Blade Magazine featured making a Frisco Shiv for a government agency that will remain unnamed but let's just say it's abbreviation is three letters of course this was never revealed to anyone.
From that, he was asked to make the prototype of the 20th anniversary Mark II. He didn't keep the prototype, it was placed in a safe there at Gerber and inhe went to work for a knife company in Alabama. Before he left, his supervisor gave him the prototype but the knife and its sheath were wrapped and not in a display box.
He returned to Gerber in and eventually found a good box for it but it is in the 35th anniversary box. He left Gerber in of course, it wasn't Gerber anymore, Gerber was earlier bought out by Fiskars. The photographs will show all that.
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That's basically it. He started with Gerber when he was 21 and worked there from to and then to He's 49 now. The item was later sold on in Dec The knife has an L6 tool steel blade as evidenced by the serial BT and is has the laser marked 20th. This example was a test piece that was never placed into production. It has a high polished blade with the US flag grip motif. The serial is IS. This was obtained from Gerber at what can best be described as a "garage sale".
Odd pieces and non production knives were sold to persons invited to Gerber in late or early ". The serial number dates the blade to the later part of But the handle may have been done before or after that date. The sheath that was included with the knife was a A.
Russell Edition sheath. A very nice design. It's a shame it wasn't put into production. Normally a knife in this serial number range should have a Gray Armorhide handle. This knife has a dark green handle.
The letter shown certifies that the knife and sheath came from the Gerber factory archives and were given to Robert A. Buerlein by Pete Gerber.